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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

If host and anti-host ever meet...

It would be awkward because if they are complete opposites the handshake wouldnt work (considering annihilation wouldnt happen)

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Luna

Rhys has expressed a greater... kindness shall we say... toward religion than me. But in his defence where he comes from there is no question the supernatural is real. He has not straight up hardline joined a religion like whichever among JGC did - I think he's definable as an Agnostic Atheist at the moment, where I am Gnostic.

@Zen - jump While I am militant atheist, I am not gnostic. I think being absolute sure is pretty irrational, in case of existence any kind of personal creator, of course, not characters from mythology.

So if I describe someone, they become impossible?

I would argue that surety is irrelevant to knowledge. I know that there are no unicorns because we do not have evidence of them, or the evidence is spurious.

I don't think being an anti-host is possible. I think a tulpa can only be so different from their host for functional reasons. It would be incredibly difficult to be really different and have to convince other people you're who they think you are

But I also cannot be sure of the non-existence of unicorns. I can't be sure that relativity is right equally.

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But it's knowledge.

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And all of reality so far seems to not run on magic.

So if I describe someone, they become impossible?

@Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 - jump No. But I'd bet a lot that a random fictional character doesn't exist. And it's how I see Gods invented by humans.

Even then, I think genetically tulpas can only draw from a selection of determined personalities

Luna

Rhys has expressed a greater... kindness shall we say... toward religion than me. But in his defence where he comes from there is no question the supernatural is real. He has not straight up hardline joined a religion like whichever among JGC did - I think he's definable as an Agnostic Atheist at the moment, where I am Gnostic.

@Zen - jump While I am militant atheist, I am not gnostic. I think being absolute sure is pretty irrational, in case of existence any kind of personal creator, of course, not characters from mythology.

Same, but because most gods are unfalsifiable anyway and because you can't prove a negative.

I don't think that's really any credit to religion at all tho that it can't be ruled out. Makes it "even worse than wrong".

Even in terms of personal gods. Such a thing would have to be so alien as to be... not definable as a human intelligence.

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Because the universe is so unfailingly anti-life and anti-human. Only something that finds morality irrelevant would create this.

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And is therefore just not a personal god.

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I'd possibly buy a Great Old One existing or something though.

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But then - you're getting into territory where you're just personifying an impersonal force

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It's got no more basis than naming a hurricane.

Universe being created by a person - that's a general statement, still without any proof but I can't disprove it. Christian God - it depends on how precisely it's defined tbf.

Knowledge is that which we observe, not that which we do not observe.

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Hypotheses don't have any place in knowledge in a purely empirical mindset.

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And there is no evidence this is all made by anything other than something seriously impersonal as we would understand it.

The 'fact' that you're observing anything is a hypothesis.

Whereas the impersonality of nature and its unfailing lack of concern for life is observably... not intelligent.

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In fact it's entropic and will destroy itself

It's got no more basis than naming a hurricane.

@Zen - jump I think it's a good comparison. The difference is that we don't know as much about the creation of universe than we know about hurricanes. Still, there is no basis for existence of personal agent.

I don't think this is really tulpa related anymore, it's probably best to move to #metaphysics or #general-chat

True, Ranger, I'll leave it there though.

I think I said enough too.

Hi

hello, do you have a question?

Hi

Yes

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So i know this is not strictly on topic but i want to talk about my journey with tulpa so far

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Does anyone feel that they could help mek

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Me?*

ye

So

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I am 15

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A year ago

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I had an imaginary friend named lynn

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But i stopped working on my imaginary friend until recently

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It was from wanting to lucid dream to see my imaginary friend again

ok what do you need help with

So how do i go about

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Working on them

Your best bet in the near term is to start reading up on some of the guides we have, and once you understand the basics you can come back and ~~answer~~ ask questions about stuff you don't understand (edited)

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!guides

For a list of community-approved guides: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/9145-list-of-guides/ | Full guides forum: https://community.tulpa.info/forum/29-guides/

List of Guides

As GAT handles the guide stuff, I figured this is the best place to put this topic. But discussion is open for every single member of the forums, if you have ideas then please do submit them! Right, so we have that list of guides that hasnt been updated in a while and is out of date. While it cou...

Guides

once you understand the basics you can come back and answer questions about stuff you don't understand

lol

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we're not that bad, Reg

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Just read around and click a bunch of them - whatever gets your interest

I have read a few guides actually

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I just find that people can give more help then

The main thing you can do is to give them attention. Attention = tulpa food

Ive read the basic procession how to create one

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So attention is the best way to grow a tulpa

pretty much

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you get out what you put in

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it seems like an oversimplification but it's true

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

once you understand the basics you can come back and answer questions about stuff you don't understand

lol

but he's right!

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Az is right.

Yea

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It makes sense

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I always thought (before today) that an "imaginary friend" cannot become alive by your will

tulpas are not alive technically

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I mean they are as alive as the host

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it happens to writers who visualise their characters a lot, they find they start talking back without the writers input

in the same way that hosts aren’t alive technically

I thought I saw you before on this server, or was it someone with same profile picture?

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tulpas are not alive technically

You know what i mean by alive

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I thought I saw you before on this server, or was it someone with same profile picture?

Me?

this pfp is pretty common

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oh ok

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I thought I saw you before on this server, or was it someone with same profile picture?

I thought that too lol

Have y'all ever had an ld with your tulpa?

i have

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well, I can't say for sure

oh, lucid dream thought you were asking about identification cards

Nono

I've had a ld that my tulpa was in, but neither of us can say for sure whether it actually was my tulpa or not

I have been researching lucid dreaming for the past few days and

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Happenedjto come across tulpa being mentioned

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And so i was curious and now here i am

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I read abt it in guides but what exactly is a "wonderland"

it’s basically just an imagined place

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you might see the word “visualize” around, it’s basically a synonym for imagine

I under stand that much

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But it seems odd at the same time

although you can train your brain to get fairly vivid sensations

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yeah, this stuff is all odd pretty much

I have trouble with visualization

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Anyways i've talked to people with DID before and found the concept behind it very interesting

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I understand there is differences between tulpa and DID

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But they have similarities

you can probably get better visualization with practice, although it’s not required or anything

Is it odd or normal that i can almost feel her presence

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Like im getting weird feelings that arent really

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Explainable to me

It's pretty normal to feel tulpa's presence

I named her lynn for future referenca

You named her after imaginary friend you had before?